Kab fluid damper

Thread starter Frank Sol; Start date Oct 12, 2010; Frank Sol AK Subscriber. The 1200 has the stock mat and a non-felt type on top of that. TONEARM FLUID DAMPER FORTechnics SL1000R / 1200-1210 GAE, G, & GR, 100C, 1500C & MK7. I'm confident this is the nicest GR you will ever find on the used market. Subjectively, though You KAB enthusiasts know the story with the Technics SL1200 arm mods (fluid damper and re-wire). Aug 1, 2018 · Doing this now and it's not even close--Herbies all the way. This has the classic Nagaoka warm sound signature yet much more detailed than the popular MP110. Sep 2, 2011 · Also, KAB's fluid damper obviously works in the same fashion as SME's accessory for the M2 tonearm. 4 payments of AU $43. I've been enjoying the GAE for a year at Fluid Damper For SL-1200 Mk 2, 3 & 5 Tonearms. That aught to improve tracking, reduce or eliminate woofer pumping, minimize vinyl roar. May 11, 2018. ORTOFON LM10 (early version of the OM10) - I got this cart for free on a Craig's List table and never liked it. ) Without the KAB damper, bottom of the bass extend better with more slam, and over all it had MORE dynamics. I hated the Rega arm (RB-301) on my SL-1200 only liked the Jelco SA-750D on it and even then, only with the Denon DL-103R cartridge. I purchased one and plan to test it out and report back to the forum on what differences, if any, I hear. Installs easily in minutes. Quick question for Fluid Damper users: Once installed, does anything with VTF/VTA/Etc. The ‘table itself is in great condition with some small marks on lower front panel. One downside is that the acrylic cover does not have hinges. I'm using a OC9XML on the stock headshell along with the KAB Fluid Damper. An alternative would be a used SL-1210 with the stock arm, and adding the KAB fluid damper. No fluid damper yet; wish I could get one for $80! Nov 27, 2023 · Nov 27, 2023. These currently ~USD$200 / approx $300 AU landed. Again, the stock 3mm isn't bad, but the Herbies mat gives everything an extra boost, the low end especially. Mar 7, 2014 · Re: KAB fluid damper VS Jelco SA-750D Post by digsydining » 08 Mar 2014 01:13 I've experienced many times from direct comparison between DL-103R and Shure V-15 type 3 against the vinyls with severe surface noise (e. Sep 29, 2002 · Category: Accessories I got my KAB fluid damper kit for the Technics SL-1200 installed yesterday, and I managed to audition one cut twice in close prox Sep 29, 2002 · Category: Accessories I got my KAB fluid damper kit for the Technics SL-1200 installed yesterday, and I managed to audition one cut twice in close proximity both with and without the damper, by playing it just before I put the silicone in the trough, and again just afterwards. Works great at all speeds including 78 RPM. In my experience, both the KAB fluid damper as well as wrapping the tonearm in heat shrink had very positive results. The test cartridge is the MXR Type Five Shure. Oct 12, 2010 #1 For sale is this preowned silver TD-1000 model Tonearm Damping System from KAB ELECTRO ACOUSTICS. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to let me know. The tonearm handles better under manual cueing. Hold the damping trough against the arm base. This mod replaces the stock tonearm tube and internal wiring and keeps the rest of a pretty good assembly. Without the KAB TD1000 Fluid Damper the stylus jumps off the lead-in groove on this warped Dire Straits record. SME says that fluid damping is recommended for low-compliance cartridges (i. Installation is very easy. Study the photograph. e. FOR SALE or TRADE: Drop + Sennheiser HD8XX + "Sticker Mod" 4. 00. Tonearm dampers aren't necessarily an upgrade for all tonearms. KAB TD-1200 Tonearm Fluid Damper For Technics SL1200/1210 MK2, 3,5 & M5G* £168. Highly recommend doing this if you intend to experiment with several cartridges. So my plan at this point is to pick up an SL-100C internationally thanks to favorable exchange rates, and then also grab an AT33PTG/II, which seems to be a great match for the Technics 12g tonearm in its stock setup (meaning it wouldn't demand any modding off the bat, like the KAB fluid damper). It includes a KAB USA TD-1000 fluid damper, Oyaide PA-2075 RR-V2 tonearm cable and Oyaide BR-12 platter mat. Page 3 of 12 < Prev 1 May 5, 2010 · The EPA 100, 250 and 500 series titanium nitride and boron arms had a very small damping ring at the junction, and fluid dampened tone arm end weights. The best tonearms use fluid damping. Apr 26, 2023 · Don’t dump the Concorde, just add a better stylus from the OM series. Sep 29, 2002 · Category: Accessories I got my KAB fluid damper kit for the Technics SL-1200 installed yesterday, and I managed to audition one cut twice in close proximity both with and without the damper, by playing it just before I put the silicone in the trough, and again just afterwards. KAB fluid damper for a Technics Firstly try one of KAB “integrated†cartridges and if that’s is floating your boat then you must - did I say must? - try the Fluid Damper. Color is black. The really great features to take note of with the KAB TD-1000 Tonearm Fluid Damper are the improved sonics and tonearm response. The turntable matt is an Achromat . Page 4 of 12 < Prev 1 Jun 4, 2020 · This is the same stuff I used, except I retained the OEM circuit board and ground wire: Audio sample #3: SL-1200MK2 with shrink tubing on arm wand, KAB fluid damper, KAB resonance cap, KAB SuperFlex arm wire, and KAB/Cardas SpiralAir interconnects: Dropbox - 3. I’ve run both a Reloop with 30 stylus and a Grado Black in my 1200GR without issue. Condition: Dec 4, 2019 · Re: Damping a Technics SL1200 Tonearm. It also helps suppress sound vibration within the tonearm tube. With a good fluid damping it will do the same to a large extent, without using the filter. The needle tracks warps without ever leaving the surface, even at 78 RPM. Jan 17, 2021 · KAB offered external power supply, the rest of his upgrade is pretty basic and his wires are not the best. Page 1 of 1: 2 Items. It went from stock and having to lightly lower the stylus with the cue lever to being able to "flick" the cue lever and walk away with the damper installed. I’ll post another video of the same record without the damper. Just take your time and installing it should be very straightforward with the instructions. Mar 5, 2023 · Current list price for the SL-1210GR is $1800, while the fluid damper costs $169. Primary Components: Technics 1200mk7 (modded), Graham Slee Reflex M + PSU-1, Various Cartridges. Apr 9, 2008 · The world's largest high-end audio community. If you spill any fluid, wipe off immediately. I have a large bottle of generic 60,000 CST silicone that I will include if the buyer wants it. There are only so many was you can make a curved silicone bath and paddle Apr 3, 2018 · KAB TD-1000 Fluid Damper for Technics SL1000R / 1200-1210 GAE, G, & GR. Nov 22, 2011 · I spent some quality time listening to to the KAB fluid damper on my SL-1200 and did a few comparisons with or without it. When you place the damping trough in place before tightening the set screw, make sure it sits as low as possible. rewire. Please note . We were the first to introduce the SL-1200 to Audiophiles, with the introduction of the TD-1200 tonearm fluid damping system in 2000. The turntable and dustcover have no apparent flaws. Now available, the TD-1200 Tonearm Fluid Damping System. Also included is a very low hour Nagaoka JT-80lb cartridge. Classicrock, Jan 8, 2023 #263. Apr 3, 2018 · Just put a KAB fluid damper on my Technics 1210G. It looks just like others over the years made by various arm manufacturers and it isn't identical to the KAB. The Reloop is the same as the old Concorde. #11. Every other cartridge I had in the stable (Dynavector, Nagaoka, Shure, Jico, etc) sounded much better on the KAB mod'd Technics arm. Only selling because I just Mar 13, 2023 · I’m selling this fitted with the KAB 1200 silicone fluid damper which makes a considerably improvement to the sound. KAB will upgrade your existing SL-1200MK2. Working on a DIY external power supply. Feb 10, 2014 · I tried roughing up the lifter a bit but it didn't really help. Installation takes about one minute to attach the trough and another two minutes to half fill with the silicone fluid. However, I felt the heat shrink yielded the greatest result and it only costs $5 or so. I've used 30,000 but the 50,000 works much better! KAB USA uses 60,000 for their Technics fluid damper for the SL-1200 MKII series. Aug 8, 2007 · It has the fluid damper, their rubber platter mat, 3 speed conversion (78 RPM added) and also had Grover interconnects to replace the stock ones. Again, YMMV. That prevented a string of the very thick fluid from draping over the side of the trough. It makes a very decent deck into something really special without changing the great user functionality of the Technics turntables. KAB IS A LEADING SUPPLIER PHONOGRAPHS, RECORD PLAYERS AND SPECIALTY HI FI PRODUCTS. Apr 30, 2024 · I’m selling this fitted with the KAB 1200 silicone fluid damper which makes a considerably improvement to the sound. This only for models manufactured between (1979-2010) All hi quality tonearms use fluid damping. It is in excellent like new condition and works perfectly. Some arms are made to work with fluid damping, so those will work best with the damping applied. The tube has a resonance that affects the sound and the tinned wiring is not very good. Click Here For Details. Apr 3, 2018 · KAB TD-1000 Fluid Damper for Technics SL1000R / 1200-1210 GAE, G, & GR. Mar 22, 2017 · It has the KAB paddle mod , power supply and runs great. I had this on my Technics 1200G and it worked very well. KAB TD-1200 Tonearm Fluid Damper For Technics SL1200/1210 MK2, 3,5 & M5G*. Take your time for this set screw is a little difficult to get to. Others will add mass to the head shell, or run a heavy head shell, or pot the cartridge into a higher mass body, and then add weight to the counterweight to be able to balance out the arm. KAB TD-1200 tonearm fluid damper in excellent cosmetic and functional condition. The tt sits on a Symposium Audio 3 inch thick platform . Comes complete with original box and accessories. This turntable was purchased in Japan and comes with a step down transformer. Here's a great video comparing the LP7 with an SME 15 (with an SME V tonearm). The Stock technics arm can be modded with sleeving, ala Audioquest and other arms do, and you can also add the KAB fluid damper. Read item description or contact seller for postage options. Anyway, when you start from power supply you will not hear much improvement as you can hear with different cartridge even before rewiring. See KAB website for info, specs and reviews (one here on Audiogon in the forums). Learn more. Jun 27, 2020 · FWIW I don't think you can knock-off what is just a plastic fluid bath containing some damping fluid and a paddle. I have already rewired my SL-1200M3D with Cardas tonearm wire and put RCA jacks on it. Just got my new KAB TD-1000 fluid damper installed on my SL-1200GAE -the older model that Kevin has been making for awhile won't fit on the new tables arms - essentially this new TD-1000 damper is functionally identical to the TD-1200 damper for the vintage SL-1200/10 model. Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. You have to make some sort of trough, and then experiment with damping fluid and depth. Once installed on my SL 1210 M5G in made a noticeable and positive improvementworks with Technics SL-12xx tonearms. KAB TD-1000 Fluid Damper for Technics SL1000R / 1200-1210 GAE, G, & GR. Aug 17, 2017 · 2. I did them separately and the fluid damper made the most difference, particularly on older albums. Pioneer PLX-1000 with AT-150MLX and second arm for testing. If you don't, the paddle can end up scraping the bottom of the trough. KAB began its start with the SL-1200 in 1994 with our Broadcast Standard version which featured 78 RPM. The custom machined solid aluminum trough is designed to fit your SL-1200 MK2 or 3 tonearm like a glove. Tonearm Fluid Damper Kits. It tracked better, sounded better - especially in the bass Watch Report This Ad. Asking Price: CAD $ 100. No returns accepted. Have been thinking very seriously about getting the KAB fluid damper and want to know from those that have Here’s the KAB TD1000 Fluid Damper in-action with an extremely warped record. It is in excellent shape and includes the original packaging and a brand new tube of silicone sourced straight from KAB. Every aspect of the music changes a bit - all for the better, especially the bass. Is that a better decision than say doing something like maybe finding a deal on a new Technics SL-100C, or maybe even spending a bit more on a different turntable/brand entirely? Apr 9, 2008 · ekobesky. Before I attempt to further roughen up the lifter I wanted to know if the fluid damper is possibly causing this. Apr 3, 2018 · Arlington, Virginia USA. All necessary cables are supplied including a detailed owners manual. The paddle rides in the fluid controlling sudden movements of the arm. I’m selling a Technics SL-1200GAE turntable in mint condition. Say I went to KAB and spent 400'ish on the upgrades/mods they provide, namely Fluid Damper/Tonearm. Installing The KAB TD1200 Fluid Damping System. Oct 31, 2019 · Yes, the SME fluid is way over priced! The Mugen works just the same, and they make all kinds of fluid weights. #1. Jun 3, 2023 · Fluid damping of the sort that the KAB does won't effect the arm's self resonance profile, it will damp the amplitude and length of the arm-cart's subsonic oscillation at the arm-cart system's resonant frequency. Mar 2, 2013. Check it out! Click Here. Aug 1, 2018 · Just caved in and purchased the KAB Fluid Damper for my 1200GR. KAB TD-1200 Tonearm Fluid Damper For Technics SL1200/1210 MK2, 3,5 & M5G* Please note: This only for models manufactured between (1979-2010) All hi quality tonearms use fluid damping. Now your Technics (1979-2010) can have this desirable feature. Feb 24, 2014 · KAB TD-1200 tonearm fluid damper for sale. by cafe latte » 04 Dec 2019 21:21. Hi, does anyone one know if the Mk 1 acrylic funk firm platter is compatible with the KAB fluid damper ? - looks like it could contact the trough of the KAB fluid damper. I personally enjoy the VM95SH and the ML. We have a stock one also. Nov 23, 2013 · I think the damper is mandatory for 1200 owners. 99. The Paddle slips over the cueing arm support. Check it out! Click Here Now available, the PS-1200 outboard regulated power supply. Funk firm SL1200 (acrylic) platter Mk1 and KAB fluid damper question. (My tonearm has Van Den Hul wire and has tube shrink on the arm for damping already. Click a button to see the various parts and installation steps of the KAB TD-1200 Fluid Damper Kit. Mar 18, 2008 · I have the opportunity to buy a used SL-1210 with Rega RB-250 arm & armboard at a reasonable price. Cost is not a concern. It was waaay Nov 21, 2020 · The KAB fluid damper has had very good reviews on various sites and frums and allows for use of high compliance cartridges so it comes highly receommended apparently. Jul 9, 2016 · I have an SL1200-M3D with KAB RCA jacks, fluid damper and Cardas tonearm wire with cotton in the tube. Be sure it stays level with the curved cueing bar directly behind it. My Audio Technica cartridges made feathery descents with the TD-1000 in place. I’m looking to upgrade to a SP10R. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by snorker, Apr 3, 2018. Also did new paint, decals and the KAB walnut case. MCs) and floors that are not particularly stable. need to change? Up for sale is a gently used KAB TD-1000 fluid damper for Technics turntable tonearms. I work with silicone fluids professionally, and I will include fresh 60,000 cSt silicone fluid, which is what KAB supplies with the TD-1000. May 11, 2018 · KAB Fluid Damper for SL-1200 series in action Video! vincei; Feb 28, 2013; Turntables; 2. KAB fluid damper for a Technics Apr 3, 2018 · KAB TD-1000 Tonearm Fluid Damper For Technics SL-1000R, SL-1200G, GAE & GR . Nov 16, 2020 · The KAB damper is very easy to install. I believe the fluid damper only makes a big difference when using finnicky cartridges that cost far more than the SL-1200 itself, like low-compliance, low-output moving coils. 22-11-2020, 11:58 #5 SiT4 Aug 10, 2023 · KAB TD-1200 Tonearm Fluid Damper For Technics SL1200/1210 MK2- Black. Replies 28 Views 4K. totem. Tighten the set screw snugly. The tonearm bearings however, are very good. Every time. 4mm balanced cable; FOR SALE: Krell Vector Power Cord 15-Amp x Type 1m Apr 19, 2023 · I’m selling this fitted with the KAB 1200 silicone fluid damper which makes a considerably improvement to the sound. I found it helpful when I was filling the trough w/ silicone to draw the plunger back out of the syringe a tad each time I waited for the silicone to level out. You can kludge a damper with a cable clamp on the arm, using a long screw to both tighten the clamp (obivously with a nut) and to act as the paddle (or you can glue an actual paddle to the screw). 75. Oct 12, 2010 · Question about KAB Fluid Damper. May not post to United States. Apr 6, 2016 · I'm Anthony. Pioneer PLX-1000 with KAB Fluid Damper. Currently running a OC9XML and am curious if I will notice a big difference. It takes a really good turntable and makes it a great turntable. Tracking of shallow groove records like vintage Pathes, is no longer a nightmare. Nov 24, 2013 · Hi All, I have searched and read about everything I could find and would like current opinions. Oct 16, 2012 · I haven't tried the KAB fluid damper because it doesn't fit either of the Technics turntables that I use for LP playback, but I have found that the Van Alstine Longhorn mod works very well with Grado cartridges and Technics S-arm turntables. Fluid Damper For SL-1200 Mk 2, 3 & 5 Tonearms. Jan 23, 2020 · For comparison purposes. Yeah! all of the above. The TD-1200 consists of a precision machined trough, tonearm paddle, May 23, 2018 · KAB Fluid Damper for SL-1200 series in action Video! vincei; Feb 28, 2013; Turntables; 2. Denon DL-103. May 12, 2018 · Subscriber. g. This is a fantastic sounding turntable and has tons of online reviews. Page 6 of 12 < Prev 1 Feb 10, 2013 · The most common use with a rumble filter is to cut the resonance arm/cartridge, so the woofer in a bass reflex speaker is not pumping. The KAB fluid damper runs $149. Apr 19, 2015 · A couple of known things about the SL-1200 are that the tonearm tube and wiring are weak links. TD1200 - Fluid Damper TD1000 - Fluid Damper New! Fits SL1200G, GAE and GR And Jun 1, 2022 · Remove your TT mat and put some paper towels down underneath the damper. Item #649828656. Bluebook The right price. Would a MM cart benefit from fluid damping or not? Jul 20, 2016 · One problem we´re always facing in these types of threads, is that there is no consensus really: in what is a better arm. The perspex cover is good condition but displays fine scratches from cleaning and general use. Even when that one is dirty it doesn't drift as much as the one with the fluid damper. On my other 1200 without the damper a periodic cleaning fixes this. Page 9 of 12 < Prev 1 Dec 26, 2023 · Pioneer plx-1000 with kab fluid tonearm damper, record level/weight and end of tonearm plugin damper. My Green didn't sound dull, cloudy or boring with the Longhorn mod. Feb 20, 2018 · Fluid damping, such as the KAB damper will damp the motion of the arm. Just take your time and follow the instructions. KAB fluid damper for a Technics Jul 24, 2023 · I have no experience with the KAB damper, but it is a very well regarded extra for the Technics. Quick links Please login or register an account Apr 3, 2018 · KAB TD-1000 Fluid Damper for Technics SL1000R / 1200-1210 GAE, G, & GR. Merch Rep the community and hobby you love so much. Page 2 of 12 < Prev 1 Aug 26, 2008 · Aug 27, 2008. Many users seem to enjoy the benefits it brings to the Technics tonearm. (I assume that the fluid damper does not fit the Rega arm, both literally and figuratively). Last night I discovered two more carts that also benefit. KAB TD-1000 Tonearm Fluid Damper For Technics SL-1000R, SL-1200G, GAE & GR £168. I think most 1200 users agree that the best upgrade for the Technics is the Sumiko headshell. flac - Simplify your life I was somewhat skeptical that re-wiring would make a Jul 8, 2022 · The KAB damper greatly improved cueing action on my 1500C. The arm is the original arm rewired with Cardas wire and I am running it with an Audio Technica AT33Sa moving coil cartridge , fluid damper and Isonoe feet that I installed. « Last Edit: 29 Apr 2007, 08:10 pm by tvad4 » Apr 9, 2008 · The world's largest high-end audio community. Friesiansam said: Methinks serpens oleum! Done a little research and, many seem to think it makes things worse, by causing unwanted resistance to normal tonearm movement, resulting in tracking errors and distortion. Yes, as I said it appears they have put it at the wrong end of the tonearm. See details. When you squirt the damping fluid into the trough, make sure you don't accidentally get it on the cueing bar. You can expect to see big improvements in tracking and groove holding. Nov 5, 2023 · Let me ask this. I know fluid damping of the Technics tonearm has been a somewhat controversial topic around here, but for those interested KAB now has his KAB TD-1000 Fluid Damper for the new Technics models available. When playing a normal record, the only motion of a tone arm should be a very slow progression towards the centre of the disc. Apr 26, 2011 · Apr 26, 2011. Super smooth and highly recommended. At $40, it's also the most inexpensive. Recent Classifieds. I can see why at least half of the Technics TT tweakers say that the KAB fluid damper made more difference than any other upgrade. #4. The VM95 carts from Audio Technica are good matches for the 1500C's tonearm compliance-wise but not it's preamp, due to capacitance issues. Now your Technics turntable can have this desirable feature. Fluid damper is only for high compliance cartridges. Kab actually sells this combo on their site. broadband noise). Is the funk firm Mk1 platter a worthwhile upgrade ? has anyone used it with a stainless Nov 13, 2012 · In a recent thread, I described the benefits of using an SL-1200 with KAB fluid dampener with Grado cartridges. Technocentral Forum Resident. It was used in a high end system and absolutely NO dj use. Virtual Systems Let the world see what you've built. May 28, 2024 · The TD-1000 kit consists of a precision machined trough, tonearm paddle, and special Silicone fluid. Maybe there could be if we took 100 people listening to exactly the same type of arms, using everything else the same; maybe then there would be specific arms that would have majority voting. Custom cables. Sep 3, 2017 · The fluid damper may suffice for this, as it does allow the arm wand to behave like a higher mass one if you run a large paddle or set it deep into the fluid. Like a new arm upgrade. Info: KAB TD-1000 fluid damper system for Technics 1500c. Aug 24, 2019 · In perfect condition, I have used it off and on for a couple of years. Improves tracking on warps, and tracing of minute details. However the KAB damper is not damping enough for this, the arm is still underdamped with it. aunitedlemon likes this. KAB model TD-1200 the trough, paddle and allen wrench are included. Quick links Please login or register an accountlogin or register an account Feb 8, 2022 · Quick links Please login or register an accountlogin or register an account . Subscriber. I'd also consider the KAB Fluid Damper as well, intended for Technics 1200's, however it perfectly fits the LP7 tonearm. The TD-1200 consists of a precision machined trough, tonearm paddle, and special Silicone fluid. Page 8 of 12 < Prev 1 Apr 9, 2008 · The world's largest high-end audio community. Up for sale is my KAB TD 1200 Fluid Damper it is in like new condition and has only been installed and removed one time since I bought it new in May 2018 . Page 12 of 12 < Prev 1 Dec 14, 2003 · The KAB damper is very much like the one on the 3009 series SME but the trough is wider and holds more fluid. 3. The background is quieter on the KAB machine, it has better bass than stock but doesn't stick out in that department, resolution is improved and it sounds much improved over Aug 20, 2021 · From one 1500C owner to another: GET THE KAB DAMPER. #10. px xy ka bz wt oi ew gc se po